ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

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Doug

ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Doug » 15 jan 2005 01:26:49

If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00 or
the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and have
found most of my information from census, but I really want to get going on
this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a historical
newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of which some of
my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I have no idea
how good they are.

Thank you!
Remove REMOVE from my email address if you want to respond directly

Doug

Bruce Remick

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 15 jan 2005 02:50:31

"Doug" <letsgomets@REMOVEsnet.net> wrote in message
news:drZFd.7489$Zb.2036@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00
or
the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and
have
found most of my information from census, but I really want to get going
on
this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a historical
newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of which some
of
my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I have no idea
how good they are.


For $35/year HeritageQuest (via Godfrey Library) also has an impressive
collection of searchable newspapers, perhaps better even than Ancestry.
Membership also includes access to most census years, many vital records and
a wide range of other goodies including UK and Irish collections. You imply
that you've already exhausted most of your census searches. That's where I
find that Ancestry excels over HeritageQuest. Ohterwise, you might consider
HeritageQuest among whatever other suggestions you receive here.

Bruce

Robert Heiling

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 15 jan 2005 03:00:52

Doug wrote:

If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

Neither

I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00 or
the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

Compare with the Godfrey Library at US$35/yr

I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and have
found most of my information from census, but I really want to get going on
this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a historical
newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of which some of
my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I have no idea
how good they are.

Thank you!
Remove REMOVE from my email address if you want to respond directly

Doug

Godfrey has everything you seem to be looking for right now including US
census, Persi, book collections, newspaper collections, etc. and for only $35
it's hard to go wrong. They are located at:
http://www.godfrey.org/

HTH
Bob

Alan Jones

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Alan Jones » 15 jan 2005 05:16:40

Both Ancestry.com and Genealogy.com are owned by the same company,
I think it is myfamily.com

It appears that Ancestry.com gets more new databases than Genealogy.com.
They are using the same materials for some things like the scanned census
images.

I guess I recommend Ancestry.

BUT "Heritage Quest" can be used for FREE, by finding a local public library
that will give you a library card and that library provides this service via
their webpage. The library I tried let me get a card for free with just
some
valid ID, and I use Heritage Quest online from home all the time.
It has the census, scanned in histories, PERSI, and revolutionary war
records.
Still Ancestry.com has a larger collection of databases.



"Doug" <letsgomets@REMOVEsnet.net> wrote in message
news:drZFd.7489$Zb.2036@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00
or the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and
have found most of my information from census, but I really want to get
going on this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a
historical newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of
which some of my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I
have no idea how good they are.

Thank you!
Remove REMOVE from my email address if you want to respond directly

Doug

Tara

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Tara » 15 jan 2005 12:23:13

"Doug" <letsgomets@REMOVEsnet.net> wrote in message
news:drZFd.7489$Zb.2036@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00
or the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and
have found most of my information from census, but I really want to get
going on this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a
historical newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of
which some of my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I
have no idea how good they are.

Thank you!
Remove REMOVE from my email address if you want to respond directly

Doug


Of those two, I'd recommend Ancestry. They have more databases, many with
actual images, not just an index, and most importantly, a search engine that
actually searches for more than just first and last name. Genealogy's search
engines are a joke. No soundex search, no wildcards, no keywords, ages,
places, etc. You have to try and think of every possibly spelling variation,
typo, transcription error, nickname, etc. to search on.

I had hoped MyFamily.com would fix that when they bought it, but it looks to
me like they're putting everything into Ancestry.com and getting ready to
let Genealogy.com go away. If you look at the "What's New" area of each
site, Genealogy.com lists 5 new databases added in Dec 2004. Ancestry
already has 2 of those (Gulf Coast Passenger List, 1920 TN Census Index),
has almost the same info in another (RI Birth Records) and the other two are
pretty much worthless, in my opinion, the World Family Tree databases. When
you look at Ancestry.com, they have added or updated 43 databases so far in
Jan 2005. It looks pretty one-sided.

I don't know anything about HeritageQuest. They share census pics with
Genealogy.com but I don't know how flexible their searches engines are.

--Tara

singhals

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av singhals » 15 jan 2005 16:03:24

Tara wrote:

I don't know anything about HeritageQuest. They share census pics with
Genealogy.com but I don't know how flexible their searches engines are.

They're not terribly "flexible" -- there's no wildcard and no soundex
and they include HoH and any household members with a different
last-name -- but the interface is better. The search improves if you
use the advance search feature creatively. Saving or printing images
also seems easier and more consistent than Ancestry's.

Cheryl

Doug

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Doug » 16 jan 2005 04:17:28

Well, seeing that I live only 20 minutes from the Godfrey Library, I think
that might be a good choice! Didn't even know it existed. Thanks!

"Robert Heiling" <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:41E87954.9F77677@comcast.net...
Doug wrote:

If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

Neither

I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00
or
the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

Compare with the Godfrey Library at US$35/yr

I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and
have
found most of my information from census, but I really want to get going
on
this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a historical
newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of which some
of
my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I have no idea
how good they are.

Thank you!
Remove REMOVE from my email address if you want to respond directly

Doug

Godfrey has everything you seem to be looking for right now including US
census, Persi, book collections, newspaper collections, etc. and for only
$35
it's hard to go wrong. They are located at:
http://www.godfrey.org/

HTH
Bob


Bruce Remick

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 17 jan 2005 03:05:37

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3aednajRGNwjrXTcRVn-hw@rcn.net...
Tara wrote:

I don't know anything about HeritageQuest. They share census pics with
Genealogy.com but I don't know how flexible their searches engines are.

They're not terribly "flexible" -- there's no wildcard and no soundex
and they include HoH and any household members with a different
last-name -- but the interface is better. The search improves if you
use the advance search feature creatively. Saving or printing images
also seems easier and more consistent than Ancestry's.

Cheryl


I would add that it appears to me that HeritageQuest has more US newspaper
images than Ancestry. One frustration I have with HQ is that, unlike
Ancestry, they don't let you know when they add new files within a category,
state, census, etc. In my single surname search, I check almost every
directory, newspaper, etc. and would like to know when something new has
been added.

Bruce

LRESA500

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av LRESA500 » 17 jan 2005 08:20:50

If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?


HQ thru Godfrey is the best deal.
Ancestry has the best indexes. HQ and Genealogy.com still don't have 1850
indexed yet.

Katrina.pm@gmail.com

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Katrina.pm@gmail.com » 17 jan 2005 21:25:45

I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.

Katrina.pm@gmail.com

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Katrina.pm@gmail.com » 17 jan 2005 21:35:33

How is Heritage with Mexican ancestry?

Katrina.pm@gmail.com

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Katrina.pm@gmail.com » 17 jan 2005 22:07:24

I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.

Katrina.pm@gmail.com

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Katrina.pm@gmail.com » 17 jan 2005 22:07:49

I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.

Robert Heiling

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 17 jan 2005 22:18:22

"Katrina.pm@gmail.com" wrote:

How is Heritage with Mexican ancestry?

Nada. The HQ censuses are USA only and the Book and Newspaper
collections are limited to the USA & Canada. No help there for your
research.

HTH
Bob

Nell

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Nell » 18 jan 2005 01:46:44

Doug wrote:
Well, seeing that I live only 20 minutes from the Godfrey Library, I think
that might be a good choice! Didn't even know it existed. Thanks!

"Robert Heiling" <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:41E87954.9F77677@comcast.net...

Doug wrote:


If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

Neither


I'm looking at either super subscription from ancestry.com
(http://www.ancestry.com/landing/product ... ee_v2.html) for $189.00
or
the Gold Annual membership from genealogy.com
(http://www.genealogy.com/memgold-pop.html) for $199.00?

Compare with the Godfrey Library at US$35/yr


I've been working on my genealogy for a couple of years on an off, and
have
found most of my information from census, but I really want to get going
on
this. I'm leaning towards ancestry.com because they offer a historical
newspaper collection and also a UK and Ireland collection (of which some
of
my tree is Irish) as well as the US census collection. But I have no idea
how good they are.

Thank you!
Remove REMOVE from my email address if you want to respond directly

Doug

Godfrey has everything you seem to be looking for right now including US
census, Persi, book collections, newspaper collections, etc. and for only
$35
it's hard to go wrong. They are located at:
http://www.godfrey.org/

HTH
Bob






I went to (and bookmarked) Godfrey.org. Even free I was able to get a
copy of my great-uncle's WWI draft card. :) I'm going to pay, for sure.
Sure wish I lived nearby, too.

Nell

Alan Jones

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Alan Jones » 18 jan 2005 03:13:45

Why pay for Godfrey to get HQ when you can use it for free?

"LRESA500" <lresa500@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050117022050.21978.00000058@mb-m05.aol.com...
If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?


HQ thru Godfrey is the best deal.
Ancestry has the best indexes. HQ and Genealogy.com still don't have 1850
indexed yet.

singhals

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av singhals » 18 jan 2005 15:20:08

Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:
I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.


At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Cheryl

Robert Heiling

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 18 jan 2005 21:17:13

singhals wrote:

Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:
I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.


At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Pedantic or parochial?<vbg> Most people wouldn't even imagine she meant the
M-D line. :-)

Don't you remember the song?

bOB

Bob Melson

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Bob Melson » 18 jan 2005 21:30:02

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:17:13 -0800, Robert Heiling wrote:

singhals wrote:

Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:
I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five
years with both, there is still very little.


At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Pedantic or parochial?<vbg> Most people wouldn't even imagine she meant
the M-D line. :-)

Don't you remember the song?

bOB

Given the current waves of Latin/Hispanic immigrants, both legal and
illegal, that song could well apply to the US-Canadian border in the not
distant future.

Swell Ol' Bob


--
Robert G. Melson | Nothing is more terrible than
Rio Grande MicroSolutions | ignorance in action.
El Paso, Texas | Goethe
melsonr(at)earthlink(dot)net

singhals

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av singhals » 18 jan 2005 22:52:09

Robert Heiling wrote:

singhals wrote:


Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:

I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.


At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?


Pedantic or parochial?<vbg> Most people wouldn't even imagine she meant the
M-D line. :-)

Cute. ;)

Don't you remember the song?

bOB




Uhhh -- no? Clearly, not "Maryland, my Maryland" -- "I left my
heart..." "The White Cliffs of Dover..." "Papa loves Mambo..." "Port
Said..." ???

Cheryl

Robert Heiling

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 18 jan 2005 23:43:17

singhals wrote:

Robert Heiling wrote:
singhals wrote:

Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:

I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.

At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Pedantic or parochial?<vbg> Most people wouldn't even imagine she meant the
M-D line. :-)

Cute. ;)

Don't you remember the song?

bOB

Uhhh -- no? Clearly, not "Maryland, my Maryland" -- "I left my
heart..." "The White Cliffs of Dover..." "Papa loves Mambo..." "Port
Said..." ???

<surprised expression on face>
It's a well-known love song with a great melody that's been done by Sinatra and
others.

"South of the border, down Mexico way.
That's where I fell in love where stars above, came out to play.
And now as I wonder, my thoughts ever stray.
South of the border, down Mexico way." etc

Bob

DOG_69

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av DOG_69 » 19 jan 2005 00:50:37

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:45 -0800, "Alan Jones" <alanjones10@cox.net>
wrote:

Why pay for Godfrey to get HQ when you can use it for free?

Because it is not always free. None of the libraries available to me
carry it for example.

Charani

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Charani » 19 jan 2005 09:13:38

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:20:08 -0500, singhals wrote:

At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Katrina posted a great long list of URLs for Mexican or Mexican
related sites a few days ago. I only saw it by accident because I'd
forgotten to readjust a setting otherwise I'd have been wondering like
you :)) I guess your newsreader baulked at the list :))

singhals

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av singhals » 19 jan 2005 15:10:45

Robert Heiling wrote:

singhals wrote:


Robert Heiling wrote:

singhals wrote:


Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:


I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.

At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Pedantic or parochial?<vbg> Most people wouldn't even imagine she meant the
M-D line. :-)

Cute. ;)


Don't you remember the song?

bOB

Uhhh -- no? Clearly, not "Maryland, my Maryland" -- "I left my
heart..." "The White Cliffs of Dover..." "Papa loves Mambo..." "Port
Said..." ???


surprised expression on face
It's a well-known love song with a great melody that's been done by Sinatra and
others.

"South of the border, down Mexico way.
That's where I fell in love where stars above, came out to play.
And now as I wonder, my thoughts ever stray.
South of the border, down Mexico way." etc

Bob



(blush) and I have two versions he did too ... Ah, well ...

Cheryl

singhals

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av singhals » 19 jan 2005 15:13:48

Charani wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:20:08 -0500, singhals wrote:


At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?


Katrina posted a great long list of URLs for Mexican or Mexican
related sites a few days ago. I only saw it by accident because I'd
forgotten to readjust a setting otherwise I'd have been wondering like
you :)) I guess your newsreader baulked at the list :))

Well, you see, I don't DO research in Mexico, so I tend to skip messages
with it in the subj line and I tend to not-remember who posted messages
I skip? (g)

And, soon after I posted the query, I did see the list you mention.

Cheryl

Charani

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Charani » 19 jan 2005 16:11:51

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:48 -0500, singhals wrote:

Well, you see, I don't DO research in Mexico, so I tend to skip messages
with it in the subj line and I tend to not-remember who posted messages
I skip? (g)

Nor do I, but it happened to be the first post in the list :)) I tend
not to remember who posted what anyway lolol
And, soon after I posted the query, I did see the list you mention.

<G>


PS I found out why I "lost" your posts for a while - I'd blocked
someone in one group called Hal and this daft newsreader blocked every
sender with the letters h-a-l in their name!!!

mickg

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av mickg » 19 jan 2005 21:25:14

Robert Heiling wrote:
singhals wrote:


Robert Heiling wrote:

singhals wrote:


Katrina.pm@gmail.com wrote:


I have both. Of the two, I like Ancestry.com. The sad thing is that
they are owned by the same company and you must join both to get what
each doesn't have. They also have very little on ancestry south of the
border. Lots on European ancestry.. Unfortunately, I want south of the
border info. I have written to request more sites, but after five years
with both, there is still very little.

At the risk of seeming pedantic, South of *which* border?

Pedantic or parochial?<vbg> Most people wouldn't even imagine she meant the
M-D line. :-)

Cute. ;)


Don't you remember the song?

bOB

Uhhh -- no? Clearly, not "Maryland, my Maryland" -- "I left my
heart..." "The White Cliffs of Dover..." "Papa loves Mambo..." "Port
Said..." ???


surprised expression on face
It's a well-known love song with a great melody that's been done by Sinatra and
others.

"South of the border, down Mexico way.
That's where I fell in love where stars above, came out to play.
And now as I wonder, my thoughts ever stray.
South of the border, down Mexico way." etc

Bob


T'was the theme song to a movie of the same name.


MickG

singhals

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av singhals » 19 jan 2005 22:28:32

Charani wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:13:48 -0500, singhals wrote:


Well, you see, I don't DO research in Mexico, so I tend to skip messages
with it in the subj line and I tend to not-remember who posted messages
I skip? (g)


Nor do I, but it happened to be the first post in the list :)) I tend
not to remember who posted what anyway lolol

And, soon after I posted the query, I did see the list you mention.


G


PS I found out why I "lost" your posts for a while - I'd blocked
someone in one group called Hal and this daft newsreader blocked every
sender with the letters h-a-l in their name!!!

Been there, done that; ugly T-shirt. (G) I set up a filter intended to
block X sender -- instead, it blocked everything EXCEPT X. (psi)

Cheryl

Charani

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Charani » 19 jan 2005 23:35:16

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:28:32 -0500, singhals wrote:

ugly T-shirt.

Isn't it just <G>

Katrina.pm@gmail.com

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av Katrina.pm@gmail.com » 20 jan 2005 02:43:49

I live in San Diego, CA, so that would be Mexico for me.

D. Stussy

Re: ancestry.com vs. genealogy.com

Legg inn av D. Stussy » 20 jan 2005 23:25:25

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Doug wrote:
If you were going to buy a subscription from one of these services, which
would you choose?

If I were "required" to subscribe to a minimum of one of these services, I
would NOT choose genealogy.com because of their practice of selling uploaded
data without compensation to (and initially without notice to) the uploaders.
That's where the "FTM series 700" CD's come from - uploaded data.

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