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Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av singhals » 11 jan 2005 15:45:41

1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?

Thanks.

Cheryl

Claude J

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Claude J » 11 jan 2005 16:36:15

In article <4tGdnc9AD7cIe37cRVn-oQ@rcn.net>, singhals@erols.com says...
1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?

Thanks.

Cheryl


Hi Cheyrl,


It seems that Ancestry.com is having problems this morning.

There are two Daniel R Creasap's listed, one born in 1857 [ 2-WD ], and the
other born in 1869 [ 3-WD ].

Looking at either image that is displayed doesn't show them, and going to the
browse method results in a system error.

They have an indexing problem, big time. :-(

--
Claude

MikeS

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av MikeS » 11 jan 2005 16:46:21

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It looks
like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and tell me if
it really is a "D" ?

Cheryl,

I cannot access the image on ancestry even using the browse function. The
only thing I can determine at this time is she is indexed as Mary E. Chaster
v. Charter.

Mike

MikeS

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av MikeS » 11 jan 2005 18:38:26

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It looks
like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and tell me if
it really is a "D" ?

Cheryl,

In the 1900 census she is listed as Mary E. Also, in the 1900 census there
is no Chester, Chaster families in Marion. There is a Wm A. Charter family
which includes a son John who would have been about the same age as Mary in
1900. I cannot read her marital status in 1910 but in 1920 she is living
with her father and is listed as a widow. Still cannot access the images on
ancestry.

Mike

Mike

Bruce Remick

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 11 jan 2005 18:53:01

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?

Thanks.

Cheryl

Mary Creasap Charter, 37, is still with her parents in the 1920 Census and
is shown as a widow with one son, Milford, 15.

Bruce

Huntersglenn

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Huntersglenn » 11 jan 2005 19:35:52

singhals wrote:
1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?


It doesn't look like a "D". It definitely isn't "Wd" -- her brother
David is shown as being widowed and what's written for her doesn't match
his. To me, it looks as if the enumerator might have started to write
"S" and then changed it to "M", but that could be wishful thinking on my
part <g>. Maybe once Ancestry gets it together with showing that page,
the answer could be found because it definitely looks to be a cleaner image.

HTH,

Cathy

Robert Heiling

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Robert Heiling » 11 jan 2005 21:10:54

singhals wrote:

1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?

FWIW, on the portion of that I can make out I see
F W 26 D
I compare the way he makes the letter D with the others such as in
Daughter. The middle part that would make it look like a B (???) is just
noise ande don't forget that portion is written on the upstroke on a D
and the downstroke on a B. Her middle initial does look like an E.

HTH
Bob

Bruce Remick

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Bruce Remick » 12 jan 2005 02:35:55

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singhals wrote:
1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?


It doesn't look like a "D". It definitely isn't "Wd" -- her brother
David is shown as being widowed and what's written for her doesn't match
his. To me, it looks as if the enumerator might have started to write
"S" and then changed it to "M", but that could be wishful thinking on my
part <g>. Maybe once Ancestry gets it together with showing that page,
the answer could be found because it definitely looks to be a cleaner
image.

HTH,

Cathy

Just wondering if she listed herself as divorced in 1910, would she be
likely to call herself a widow in 1920? Was it common or accepted for a
divorced woman to "reclassify" herself as a widow if her former husband died
years later.

Bruce

CLARK1528

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av CLARK1528 » 12 jan 2005 03:13:17

Just wondering if she listed herself as divorced in 1910, would she be
likely to call herself a widow in 1920? Was it common or accepted for a
divorced woman to "reclassify" herself as a widow if her former husband died
years later.

Bruce


All the divorced women I've looked for in census records of that period listed
themselves as "widowed", even when the exhusband was still alive.

Jennifer Clark

singhals

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av singhals » 12 jan 2005 03:24:12

Bruce Remick wrote:

"Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message
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singhals wrote:

1910 > OHIO > MARION > 2-WD MARION
Series: T624 Roll: 1213 Page: 111

Family of Daniel R CREASAP includes a dau Mary E CHARTER.

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?


It doesn't look like a "D". It definitely isn't "Wd" -- her brother
David is shown as being widowed and what's written for her doesn't match
his. To me, it looks as if the enumerator might have started to write
"S" and then changed it to "M", but that could be wishful thinking on my
part <g>. Maybe once Ancestry gets it together with showing that page,
the answer could be found because it definitely looks to be a cleaner

image.

HTH,

Cathy


Just wondering if she listed herself as divorced in 1910, would she be
likely to call herself a widow in 1920? Was it common or accepted for a
divorced woman to "reclassify" herself as a widow if her former husband died
years later.

Bruce



I dunno; maybe if she knew the enumerator and thought she could get away
with it, but certainly not if the enumerator was someone she'd known
before she married!

Cheryl

Jim Elbrecht

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Jim Elbrecht » 12 jan 2005 05:19:08

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:
-snip-
The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?

I've only been half-following this---- but how about a B for
'Betrothed'.

Jim

singhals

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av singhals » 12 jan 2005 15:27:47

Jim Elbrecht wrote:

singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:
-snip-

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?


I've only been half-following this---- but how about a B for
'Betrothed'.

Jim

Weeellll, there's that kid? (g) Seriously, I have a marriage date for
her. I don't have any info on the hubby, other than his name; I was
hoping the census would give me an age for him, but ... :(

Cheryl

ecunningham

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av ecunningham » 12 jan 2005 16:41:30

singhals wrote:

Weeellll, there's that kid? (g) Seriously, I have a marriage date for
her. I don't have any info on the hubby, other than his name; I was
hoping the census would give me an age for him, but ... :(

Cheryl: I vote for "D" since there is nothing in the column for
"number of years of present marriage" and it definitely is not "Wid",
"M#" or "S". She is Marie E. to my eye.
ecunningham@att.net

mickg

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av mickg » 12 jan 2005 17:02:26

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote:
-snip-

The image on HQ is dreadful and I can't read her marital status. It
looks like "B" to me! So, can someone look at Ancestry's version and
tell me if it really is a "D" ?


I've only been half-following this---- but how about a B for
'Betrothed'.

Jim
Nice Idea but I can't see a census enumerator caring in the least

whether she's betrothed. It wouldn't effect the purpose of the census
which I'm sure the census takers were taught.

MickG

Tara

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Tara » 12 jan 2005 17:28:09

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Weeellll, there's that kid? (g) Seriously, I have a marriage date for
her. I don't have any info on the hubby, other than his name; I was
hoping the census would give me an age for him, but ... :(

Cheryl



This page in the 1900 census will give you month/year of birth for Mary's
husband.

Name: John W Charter
Home in 1900: Marion Ward 4, Marion, Ohio
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1884
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Marion Ward 4,
Marion, Ohio; Roll: T623 1302; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 61.

I found a newspaper marriage announcement that gives John's father's name
and occupation which matches the census entry. Let me know if you want a
copy. I'm still sorting through newspaper hits to see if I can find a death
or divorce.

--Tara

Tara

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Tara » 12 jan 2005 17:33:55

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"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Weeellll, there's that kid? (g) Seriously, I have a marriage date for
her. I don't have any info on the hubby, other than his name; I was
hoping the census would give me an age for him, but ... :(

Cheryl



This page in the 1900 census will give you month/year of birth for Mary's
husband.

Name: John W Charter
Home in 1900: Marion Ward 4, Marion, Ohio
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1884
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Marion Ward 4,
Marion, Ohio; Roll: T623 1302; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 61.

I found a newspaper marriage announcement that gives John's father's name
and occupation which matches the census entry. Let me know if you want a
copy. I'm still sorting through newspaper hits to see if I can find a
death or divorce.

--Tara


I was so focused on the groom's info, I didn't pay enough attention to the
bride's info. That may not be the right couple. The notice says that the
bride's father is William Creasap. Any chance two Creasap girls married two
Charter brothers? Or perhaps just a misprint?

--
Tara Larkin
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Tara

Re: Need a confirmation pls

Legg inn av Tara » 12 jan 2005 18:51:51

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"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message
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Weeellll, there's that kid? (g) Seriously, I have a marriage date for
her. I don't have any info on the hubby, other than his name; I was
hoping the census would give me an age for him, but ... :(

Cheryl



This page in the 1900 census will give you month/year of birth for Mary's
husband.

Name: John W Charter
Home in 1900: Marion Ward 4, Marion, Ohio
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: 1884
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Marion Ward 4,
Marion, Ohio; Roll: T623 1302; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 61.

I found a newspaper marriage announcement that gives John's father's name
and occupation which matches the census entry. Let me know if you want a
copy. I'm still sorting through newspaper hits to see if I can find a
death or divorce.

--Tara


Cheryl,

I spoke too soon on that last post. I found the correction in the newspaper
right after I sent it. I figured I'd better shut up until I sorted through
all the newspaper hits. Here's everything I found that might be of interest
to you: John and Mary's wedding announcement, the correction to that
announcement, the divorce notice, Milford's wedding announcement, a small
note that shows where Milford is living in 1946 and Mary's obit in 1958.
(It's one of those wonderful obits we love too, lots of names and places and
dates!) Let me know if you want any of all of those or if you just needed
the divorce status.

--Tara

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