My mother and my sister are at a quandary as how to handle a new
addition to the lineage. DNA testing and oral evidence have shown
that my grandfather on my father's side is a Wilson,not a Kinserlow or
more properly Kinslow. They are unsure as how to handle a family
member sired by one person and raised by another. Any suggestions are
welcome?
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
rkinserlow at cox dot net
homepage: http://www.members.cox.net/rkinserlow
webmaster: http://www.d16acbl.org/U197/index.html
entry problem
Moderator: MOD_nyhetsgrupper
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Bruce Remick
Re: entry problem
"Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr." <me@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:r56ls0hsmes71up7npb8r6gh7ot15et767@4ax.com...
If you know the biological father of your grandfather, I would either enter
your grandfather as a child of that person with a note that he was raised as
a child of another family. If you don't know the biological father, but can
prove he was someone other than the father in the family where your
grandfather was raised, I would enter your grandfather as a member of the
family with a note describing the information you have found. If you know
the biological father, but he is not related to anyone in your ancestral
line, I would leave your grandfather where he is and include a note
describing what you found.
Whew!
Be aware that if the circumstances suggested by this new information would
be controversial or even "unacceptable" to some relatives, you may want to
be careful when and how you present your findings to those family members
who might not have a "need to know".
Bruce
news:r56ls0hsmes71up7npb8r6gh7ot15et767@4ax.com...
My mother and my sister are at a quandary as how to handle a new
addition to the lineage. DNA testing and oral evidence have shown
that my grandfather on my father's side is a Wilson,not a Kinserlow or
more properly Kinslow. They are unsure as how to handle a family
member sired by one person and raised by another. Any suggestions are
welcome?
If you know the biological father of your grandfather, I would either enter
your grandfather as a child of that person with a note that he was raised as
a child of another family. If you don't know the biological father, but can
prove he was someone other than the father in the family where your
grandfather was raised, I would enter your grandfather as a member of the
family with a note describing the information you have found. If you know
the biological father, but he is not related to anyone in your ancestral
line, I would leave your grandfather where he is and include a note
describing what you found.
Whew!
Be aware that if the circumstances suggested by this new information would
be controversial or even "unacceptable" to some relatives, you may want to
be careful when and how you present your findings to those family members
who might not have a "need to know".
Bruce
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singhals
Re: entry problem
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. wrote:
I guess it's going to depend on how they WANT to handle it and what the
legalities are -- and on *exactly* what you're saying.
IF you're saying that GM K nibbled some locoweed and got herself caught,
you've got kettle of fish #1. If you're saying GM K was married and had
a child before she became GM K, you've got kettle #2.
If it's Kettle #1, and if you don't mind your granddaughter following
suit, and if you don't care that GM K will get all riled up at you,
spell it out. If it's Kettle #1 and you DO mind or DO care, try to
ignore it.
If it's Kettle #2, there's no problem, you attach your father to
whichever of the two husbands you think he'd prefer; in the narrative
you can say he "was the biological child of..." or that he "was raised
by ..." whichever fits.
OTOH, if you're trying to settle a lawsuit or an argument, you put down
the bare facts and let the chips fall where they will.
Cheryl
My mother and my sister are at a quandary as how to handle a new
addition to the lineage. DNA testing and oral evidence have shown
that my grandfather on my father's side is a Wilson,not a Kinserlow or
more properly Kinslow. They are unsure as how to handle a family
member sired by one person and raised by another. Any suggestions are
welcome?
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
rkinserlow at cox dot net
homepage: http://www.members.cox.net/rkinserlow
webmaster: http://www.d16acbl.org/U197/index.html
I guess it's going to depend on how they WANT to handle it and what the
legalities are -- and on *exactly* what you're saying.
IF you're saying that GM K nibbled some locoweed and got herself caught,
you've got kettle of fish #1. If you're saying GM K was married and had
a child before she became GM K, you've got kettle #2.
If it's Kettle #1, and if you don't mind your granddaughter following
suit, and if you don't care that GM K will get all riled up at you,
spell it out. If it's Kettle #1 and you DO mind or DO care, try to
ignore it.
If it's Kettle #2, there's no problem, you attach your father to
whichever of the two husbands you think he'd prefer; in the narrative
you can say he "was the biological child of..." or that he "was raised
by ..." whichever fits.
OTOH, if you're trying to settle a lawsuit or an argument, you put down
the bare facts and let the chips fall where they will.
Cheryl
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Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr.
Re: entry problem
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:13:52 -0500, singhals <singhals@erols.com>
wrote:
The facts of the history are that my grandmother dated Chester Wilson
when she was 17. The DNA evidence proves she had intimate relations
with him. She married my legal grandfather Burt Kinserlow about the
same time. The women in my father's family have long maintained that
my father wasn't Burt Kinserlow's son. My mother has long blamed a
man who my grandmother said raped her as the biological father of my
father. This appears not to be the case. My father's birth
certificate was changed to make him appear a year younger, something
which cost him some social security benefits. My grandmother denied
all her life that my father was not Burt Kinserlow's son. Some of the
people in the family accept the probability that Chester Wilson was my
father's biological father with amicability. My father would not have
taken kindly to the proposition judging by how upset he was when my
mother had a DNA comparison done between him and one of his sisters
which showed only a 16% chance that they had the same father. When he
came to me with this fact, I tried to soothe him and told him I loved
him no matter who his father was. His sister was also very upset
about the results. Since my father has passed away before I was
tested there is no problem with him finding out about the latest
results, but his sister is still alive and we are not going to tell
her anything about it. I for one am tickled pink not to be
genetically kin to that abusive, alcoholic curmudgeon Burt Kinserlow
and Chester Wilson whoever he was has got to be an improvement.
My mother has decided to enter Chester Wilson as the father and Burt
Kinserlow as the step-father of her husband in the records.
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
rkinserlow at cox dot net
homepage: http://www.members.cox.net/rkinserlow
webmaster: http://www.d16acbl.org/U197/index.html
wrote:
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr. wrote:
My mother and my sister are at a quandary as how to handle a new
addition to the lineage. DNA testing and oral evidence have shown
that my grandfather on my father's side is a Wilson,not a Kinserlow or
more properly Kinslow. They are unsure as how to handle a family
member sired by one person and raised by another. Any suggestions are
welcome?
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
rkinserlow at cox dot net
homepage: http://www.members.cox.net/rkinserlow
webmaster: http://www.d16acbl.org/U197/index.html
I guess it's going to depend on how they WANT to handle it and what the
legalities are -- and on *exactly* what you're saying.
IF you're saying that GM K nibbled some locoweed and got herself caught,
you've got kettle of fish #1. If you're saying GM K was married and had
a child before she became GM K, you've got kettle #2.
If it's Kettle #1, and if you don't mind your granddaughter following
suit, and if you don't care that GM K will get all riled up at you,
spell it out. If it's Kettle #1 and you DO mind or DO care, try to
ignore it.
If it's Kettle #2, there's no problem, you attach your father to
whichever of the two husbands you think he'd prefer; in the narrative
you can say he "was the biological child of..." or that he "was raised
by ..." whichever fits.
OTOH, if you're trying to settle a lawsuit or an argument, you put down
the bare facts and let the chips fall where they will.
Cheryl
The facts of the history are that my grandmother dated Chester Wilson
when she was 17. The DNA evidence proves she had intimate relations
with him. She married my legal grandfather Burt Kinserlow about the
same time. The women in my father's family have long maintained that
my father wasn't Burt Kinserlow's son. My mother has long blamed a
man who my grandmother said raped her as the biological father of my
father. This appears not to be the case. My father's birth
certificate was changed to make him appear a year younger, something
which cost him some social security benefits. My grandmother denied
all her life that my father was not Burt Kinserlow's son. Some of the
people in the family accept the probability that Chester Wilson was my
father's biological father with amicability. My father would not have
taken kindly to the proposition judging by how upset he was when my
mother had a DNA comparison done between him and one of his sisters
which showed only a 16% chance that they had the same father. When he
came to me with this fact, I tried to soothe him and told him I loved
him no matter who his father was. His sister was also very upset
about the results. Since my father has passed away before I was
tested there is no problem with him finding out about the latest
results, but his sister is still alive and we are not going to tell
her anything about it. I for one am tickled pink not to be
genetically kin to that abusive, alcoholic curmudgeon Burt Kinserlow
and Chester Wilson whoever he was has got to be an improvement.
My mother has decided to enter Chester Wilson as the father and Burt
Kinserlow as the step-father of her husband in the records.
Ray Wesley Kinserlow Jr.
Lubbock, Texas
rkinserlow at cox dot net
homepage: http://www.members.cox.net/rkinserlow
webmaster: http://www.d16acbl.org/U197/index.html