Christmas vs "Holidays"

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clint

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av clint » 19 des 2004 04:42:46

Oh My! Any suggestions on a more congenial cruise group? I am a troll, but
really this is too much for me and my cow!

Adios!!!

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That was SO intelligent Yard Ape. The Lady asked a normal question, what
do
you do ? NIGGER UP TNB STYLE !! NO surprise there...

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STFU! TWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK

Diane James wrote:
Would you fuckheads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?


"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
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I read in sci.electronics.design that roger_pearse@yahoo.co.uk wrote
(in
1103362371.997071.219840@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>) about
'Christmas vs "Holidays"', on Sat, 18 Dec 2004:


Not sure what you mean here: sorry. Perhaps I should explain what I
meant?

I know what you meant; I was applying 'relentless logic'. If a date of
writing is proven false, it was false from whenever it was stated, not
from when the falsity was discovered.
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YD

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av YD » 19 des 2004 05:16:02

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:06:34 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

TAKE YOUR FRIGGIN XTIAN XMAS AND GO STRAIGHT TO *HELL* WITH IT. AS FAR
AS I'M CONCERNED, YOUR GODDAM NATIVITY SCENES SHOULD ALL BE SMASHED.
TAKE *YOUR* ILLITERATE AND IGNORANT IDEA OF XIANITY AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR
ASS- YOU ARE HOPELESS MORON IN NEED OF A PSEUDO-PARENT AKA JC.

jsmith wrote:
The secularists ... [SNIP GRABAGE]

Uh, better up your meds.

- YD.

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YD

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av YD » 19 des 2004 05:16:03

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:52:02 -0500, "Diane James" <^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^> wrote:

Would you fuckheads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?


Bitchy, bitchy. Would you mind stop tripling the size of this thread?

- YD.

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YD

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av YD » 19 des 2004 05:16:03

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:44:13 -0500, "Diane James" <^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^> wrote:

Would you fuckheads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?

Haven't done so this far, but I think I'll start now. That'll show you
to be cranky.

Thbllllrphhh...

- YD.

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Clarence

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Clarence » 19 des 2004 05:50:22

"Diane James" <^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^> wrote in message
news:10s8r06h8g9qsc2@corp.supernews.com...


PLONK!

keith

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av keith » 19 des 2004 06:51:04

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:08:44 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:33:02 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:45:54 -0500, "Diane James" <^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^> wrote:

[snip]

Why so cranky, Diane, horny ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Potty mouth b*tch, eh?


Spehro! ...who woulda thunk!

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Rich Grise

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Rich Grise » 19 des 2004 07:57:19

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:08:44 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:33:02 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:45:54 -0500, "Diane James" <^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^> wrote:

[snip]

Why so cranky, Diane, horny ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

Potty mouth b*tch, eh?

Not necessarily:
http://www.dedanaan.com/elvencabal/fhead.html

However, I think only a few here qualify for the netiquette definition -
the others, whom what's-her-name have grouped with the actual fuckheads,
have been merely negligent in not noticing that the damn thread is
getting crossposted by default to:
alt.genealogy,sci.electronics.design,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.cruises
none of whom (except s.e.d, of course) have the slightest interest in any
of our petty yammering, and who probably find it quite annoying, which
those who have plonked (or have been tempted to) can probably understand.

I've sent a message there from Pig Bladder, with the NG list trimmed to
only rec.travel.cruises, mentioning something much to the same effect,
albeit somewhat less delicately.

So, we can keep the NG Diane-free by just looking at which NGs we're
crossposting our followups to, OK?

I've crossposted this one, so now, the outsiders will know that an
s.e.d'er has offered a clue to s.e.d.

But This Is My Last Crosspost to
alt.genealogy,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.cruises

Thanks,
Rich

Ban

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Ban » 19 des 2004 08:10:20

YD wrote:
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:52:02 -0500, "Diane James" <^ ^
^ ^ ^ ^> wrote:

Would you fuckheads stop crossposting to rec.travel.cruises?


Bitchy, bitchy. Would you mind stop tripling the size of this thread?

- YD.

That's what the "block sender" feature in OE is good for.
--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy

Nota Clu

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Nota Clu » 19 des 2004 16:02:37

Too funny.
Who's doing that?
Fess up!

John Fields

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av John Fields » 19 des 2004 17:59:36

On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:50:22 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:

"Diane James" <^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^> wrote in message
news:10s8r06h8g9qsc2@corp.supernews.com...


PLONK!

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plonker finds annoying, some plonkers feel the need to announce the
deed!

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Fred Bloggs

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Fred Bloggs » 19 des 2004 18:21:02

John Fields wrote:
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:50:22 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:


"Diane James" <^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^> wrote in message
news:10s8r06h8g9qsc2@corp.supernews.com...


PLONK!


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In never ceases to amuse me that instead of just plonking a poster the
plonker finds annoying, some plonkers feel the need to announce the
deed!


I know- like their plonking does any good anyway- those messages still
make it to Google- and there's not a damned thing they can do about
that. It is telling that some retards cannot handle contrary opinions,
dissent, or criticism- watch'em run and put their heads in the sand. It
is well known that Clarence's messages are not worth the minuscule
expenditure of energy it takes to click them open- so he is on a mental
ignore which means I don't even notice him- no killfiles or other
efforts necessary.

gwhite

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av gwhite » 20 des 2004 00:41:09

Kevin Aylward wrote:

This implicitly implies ...


LOL.


You've been ingesting too many derivatives.

René

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av René » 20 des 2004 04:45:57

Oh, shoot! When I wrote the post below, I had this mistaken impression
that it wouldn't deteriorate into the crass flame-fest it has by now. Oh,
well.

René


"René" <rene-lynette@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I just wanted to comment that this is the first time I've ever seen a
cross-posted topic of this caliber be discussed in a reasonable,
intelligent, and non-attacking manner. Some of the most superficial,
trivial stuff can cause the most heated and hateful postings in so many
other groups.

Must be a lot of adults here. Thanks.

René

Kevin Aylward

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Kevin Aylward » 20 des 2004 20:13:28

John Woodgate wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote (in
vnawd.33152$tg2.14745@fe1.news.b lueyonder.co.uk>) about 'Christmas
vs "Holidays"', on Thu, 16 Dec 2004:

Indeed. Just as there are no documents written during the alleged
time that this alleged Jesus existed, verifying such alleged
existence. If I were a Christian, this would cause me some concern.
I'm not, so it doesn't.

Well, there are the Dead Sea Scrolls. Not quite contemporary, but
'within living memory', I believe. Certainly tell a story different
from normal doctrine, but explain some rather cryptic texts in Acts.

I find this page really interesting:

http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.

Marge

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Marge » 21 des 2004 08:03:26

Amen ! !

<wrongaddress@att.net> wrote in message
news:1103609599.912578.21950@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
jsmith wrote:
The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas
for a number of years now...

I got a politically correct "holiday card" from my congresswoman,
Loretta Sanchez today. No mention of Christmas, just a picture of
Loretta sitting on the fireplace ledge, petting her cat with a few pine
cones and tree branches on the wall. Can't imagine why she sends me a
card, I don't belong to her party, and never vote for her. Maybe it's
the free postage for members of congress. Our tax dollars at work
again, mailing thousands of politically correct holiday cards, with no
mention of Christmas, to attract a few secular votes.

-Bill

James A. Doemer

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 21 des 2004 12:44:22

wrongaddress@att.net wrote:
jsmith wrote:
The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas
for a number of years now...

I got a politically correct "holiday card" from my congresswoman,
Loretta Sanchez today. No mention of Christmas, just a picture of
Loretta sitting on the fireplace ledge, petting her cat with a few
pine cones and tree branches on the wall. Can't imagine why she sends
me a card, I don't belong to her party, and never vote for her. Maybe
it's the free postage for members of congress. Our tax dollars at work
again, mailing thousands of politically correct holiday cards, with no
mention of Christmas, to attract a few secular votes.

-Bill

Maybe she's not a Christian, or that she keeps it non-religious to avoid
offending non-Christians.

Jeff Coudriet

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Jeff Coudriet » 22 des 2004 01:01:47

Actually no, they can't mail that at taxpayer expense.

Jeff


wrongaddress@att.net wrote:
jsmith wrote:

The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas
for a number of years now...


I got a politically correct "holiday card" from my congresswoman,
Loretta Sanchez today. No mention of Christmas, just a picture of
Loretta sitting on the fireplace ledge, petting her cat with a few pine
cones and tree branches on the wall. Can't imagine why she sends me a
card, I don't belong to her party, and never vote for her. Maybe it's
the free postage for members of congress. Our tax dollars at work
again, mailing thousands of politically correct holiday cards, with no
mention of Christmas, to attract a few secular votes.

-Bill

Nearl J Icarus

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Nearl J Icarus » 22 des 2004 06:21:02

In article <svFxd.5265$ef5.3741@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk says...

I find this page really interesting:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

Going back 2k years, you won't find direct evidence of anybody. Most of the
information we have about Billy Shakespeare is from his will. Verification,
none.

James A. Doemer

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 22 des 2004 12:52:00

"Nearl J Icarus" <nj_toothenbecker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Wr7yd.57804$Jk5.11456@lakeread01...
In article <svFxd.5265$ef5.3741@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk says...

I find this page really interesting:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

Going back 2k years, you won't find direct evidence of anybody. Most of
the
information we have about Billy Shakespeare is from his will.
Verification,
none.


Are you joking?

There are Baptism records for William, his sister Judith, his brother
Gilbert (d. 1612), his brother Edmund (1580 - 1607), his brother Richard
(died 1613), and his sister Joan. Also for his father John Shakespeare.
William's Baptism was performed Wednesday, April the 26th, 1564. Since it
was common practice, although not always true, to Baptize on the third day
after birth, William's birthday was most likely Sunday, April the 23rd,
1564. According to the Baptism, and other church Records, William's mother
was Mary Arden, who married John Shakespeare in 1557.

A bond certificate dated November the 28th, 1582, reveals that an eighteen
year old William married the twenty-six and pregnant Anne Hathaway. Barely
seven months later, they had his first daughter, Susanna. Anne never left
Stratford, living there her entire life.
Baptism records show that William’s first child, Susanna was baptized in
Stratford sometime in May, 1583. Baptism records again reveal that twins
Hamnet and Judith were born in February 1592. Hamnet, William's only son
died in 1596, just eleven years old. Hamnet and Judith were named after
William’s close friends, Judith and Hamnet Sadler. William's family was
unusually small in a time when families had many children to ensure parents
were cared for in later years despite the very high mortality rates of
children and also their life expectancy in the 1500s.

Evidence that the great Bard was also a poet comes from his entering his
first poem Venus and Adonis in the Stationers’ Registrar on the 18th of
April, 1593. The playwright registered his second poem The Rape of Lucrece
by name on the 9th of May, 1594.

Records with the College of Heralds, reveal William applied for a coat of
arms. Despite a lack of proof, he was granted his request. Later in 1599 he
applied for his mother’s coat of arms to be added to his own.

Court records of a dispute between William's landlord Christopher Mountjoy
and his son-in-law Stephen Belott confirm that William was living in London
around 1601. The playwright's name is recorded in the court records when he
gave testimony in 1612 concerning Mountjoy and Belott’s dispute.
Interestingly, in 1601, he bought roughly 107 acres of arable land with
twenty acres of pasturage for 20 pounds in Old Stratford.

1605 when he purchased leases of real estate near Stratford. This investment
of some four hundred and forty pounds doubled in value and earned him 60
pounds income each year. Some academics speculate that this investment gave
the Bard the time he needed to write plays uninterrupted and we know that he
was indeed thought of as a businessman in the Stratford area... This
purchase was recorded for tax purposes, and to register for the deed.

Yet another record confirming the Bard's existence was John Comb’s will
which bequeathed to the Bard the princely sum of just five pounds.

And, of course, the evidence of his will as you've mentioned.

Steve Hayes

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Steve Hayes » 23 des 2004 05:11:29

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:32:01 -0500, "jsmith" <juddo@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.


This was the original message in this thread, which is off-topic in all the
groups it was posted in, and yet has now taken over alt.genealogy to the
extent that 2 out of 3 messages in that newsgroup are devoted to this subject.

Please, people, if you reply to it, set follow-ups to alt.idiots, or some
other newsgroup where it is ON topic, or else reply by e-mail to the original
poster, jsmith <juddo@is.netcom.com>



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Clarence

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Clarence » 23 des 2004 07:53:26

"Steve Hayes" <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41ca4455.3897018@news.saix.net...
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:32:01 -0500, "jsmith" <juddo@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

The secularists have been chipping away at the word Christmas for a number
of years now and are substituting irrelevant (religious ??) concoctions to
diminish the value of the celebration of the birth of Christ. Isn't it time
we begin boycotting those merchants who in their TV advertising are
exploiting the Christmas tradition yet not acknowledging that this is truly
the Christmas season. The code word "holiday" season is coming into
increasing use in an effort to minimize the influence the Truths that were
taught by the Prince of Peace.

This was the original message in this thread, which is off-topic in all the
groups it was posted in, and yet has now taken over alt.genealogy to the
extent that 2 out of 3 messages in that newsgroup are devoted to this
subject.

Please, people, if you reply to it, set follow-ups to alt.idiots, or some
other newsgroup where it is ON topic, or else reply by e-mail to the original
poster, jsmith <juddo@is.netcom.com
--
Steve Hayes


Sorry Steve, like others of your kind, you do not like intelligent discussion.
I do understand that you make your living selling Religion to the weak minded.
But if the respondents here want to discuss this subject, IT IS on topic!

Besides alt.idiots is your kind of NG!

Phyllis

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Phyllis » 26 des 2004 22:50:09

Sure they can.

Bryan wrote:
wrongaddress@att.net wrote:


Personally, the bell ringers didn't bother me, but the stores can't say
no to the krishnas and yes to the bell ringers.

James A. Doemer

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 27 des 2004 13:54:22

"Phyllis" <phyllisnilsson@buckeye-express.com> wrote in message
news:41CF3211.50305@buckeye-express.com...
Sure they can.

Bryan wrote:
wrongaddress@att.net wrote:


Personally, the bell ringers didn't bother me, but the stores can't say
no to the krishnas and yes to the bell ringers.



Yes, and no... Each of thet states have different laws regarding the sorts
of discrimination that are allowed in such situations.

Nearl J Icarus

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av Nearl J Icarus » 02 jan 2005 05:39:58

In article <Addyd.6638$9j5.4981@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
jdjunkmail@earthlink.net says...

information we have about Billy Shakespeare is from his will.
Verification, none.
Are you joking?

There are Baptism records for William, his sister Judith, his brother
.....
A bond certificate dated November the 28th, 1582, reveals that an eighteen
.....
Evidence that the great Bard was also a poet comes from his entering his
.....
Records with the College of Heralds, reveal William applied for a coat of
.....
Court records of a dispute between William's landlord Christopher Mountjoy
.....
1605 when he purchased leases of real estate near Stratford. This investment
.....
Yet another record confirming the Bard's existence was John Comb’s will
.....
And, of course, the evidence of his will as you've mentioned.

And all this proves that Francis Bacon didn't really write his plays how? All
I'm saying is that there is little to "prove" that Billy was "The Bard." And
this is only a few centuries ago.

James A. Doemer

Re: Christmas vs "Holidays"

Legg inn av James A. Doemer » 02 jan 2005 11:56:49

Nearl J Icarus <nj_toothenbecker@hotmail.com> wrote:
In article <Addyd.6638$9j5.4981@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
jdjunkmail@earthlink.net says...

information we have about Billy Shakespeare is from his will.
Verification, none.
Are you joking?

There are Baptism records for William, his sister Judith, his brother
....
A bond certificate dated November the 28th, 1582, reveals that an
eighteen .... Evidence that the great Bard was also a poet comes
from his entering his .... Records with the College of Heralds,
reveal William applied for a coat of .... Court records of a dispute
between William's landlord Christopher Mountjoy .... 1605 when he
purchased leases of real estate near Stratford. This investment ....
Yet another record confirming the Bard's existence was John Comb’s
will .... And, of course, the evidence of his will as you've
mentioned.

And all this proves that Francis Bacon didn't really write his plays
how? All I'm saying is that there is little to "prove" that Billy was
"The Bard." And this is only a few centuries ago.

You've taken so long to answer that the previous posts have been removed
from the server. However, in the context of what I replied to "...the only
information about Billy Shakespeare is from his will..." seems to be in
order. Flip the coin and look at the other side. There is really no
compelling proof that Francis Bacon DID write the plays most commonly
attributed to William Shakespeare.

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