digby.odell@yahoo.com wrote:
To the smartest newgroup on the internet:
HELP!! I'm puzzled by the following info, and have some questions:
FACTS:
On 03/03/1911, ANDREW N. COREPB filed a "Declaration of Intention" to
become a US Citizen, saying he was 65 years old, and in the milk
business. In the handwriting of the Deputy Court Clerk, he said he was
born in FALSTER, DENMARK on 08/03/1845. He said his last foreign
residence was TILRISY D and he immigrated from MELBOURNE, NEW ZEALAND,
to San Francisco on the OCEANIC, arriving on 12/25/1909.
QUESTIONS:
(1) "Melbourne, New Zealand??" Is there such a place?? I can't seem to
find anything on it.
(2) "TILRISY D" is what the deputy clerk wrote. I wonder if he was
going to write DENMARK, but realized that the fellow said Melbourne, New
Zealand?? Tried to find a TILRISY in Denmark, but couldn't. Same goes
for finding it in Australia and New Zealand. Any thoughts??
(3) Does anyone have access to Ancestry that could confirm Corepb's
arrival on the Oceanic, and provide whatever other info is available in
those records?
While this isn't a relative of mine, I stumbled across these facts and I
was puzzled by all of this, and was trying to make some sense of it.
TILRISY seems to ring a bell, but I can't find anything on it ---
wherever it is.
Thanks for your thoughts.
it is a nuisance that you didn't maintain the threading by answering
your own message Chi-Bob
I am crossposting his to a danish language group too
news:dk.videnskab.historie.genealogi
digby.odell@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks: Hugh, e, Bernie & Svend for your thought on my questions.
Hugh: The
clerks handwriting couldn't have been more clear on the last name,
COREPB.
yes but copy clerks made many spelling mistakes just like typos of today
do you have an actual signature made by him
Maybe it was supposed to be an H, but he closed it up on the bottom.
I tried
to find him (Andrew N. / Andreas COREPH) in Chicago for either the
1910 and
1920 census, but had no luck. The same goes for trying to find a
death notice
in the Tribune for the period 1910-1920. I'm still curious to know if
the ship
OCEANIC ever called at west coast ports, as everything that's been
said seems
to show it coming from Europe to the east coast.
Is there some website that would catalog the itinerary of the ship --
at least for 1909 --- to see if it made a trip into San Francisco?
see
http://stevemorse.org/
http://stevemorse.org/ellis/passengers.php?mode=sanfranxact Search Results - California Passenger and Crew Lists, 1893-1957
You searched for Andrew* Refine your search
All Immigration Results
Viewing 1-3 of 3
View Record Name Arrival Date Estimated birth year Gender Port of
Departure Last Residence Ship Name View Image
View Record Andrew Anderson 30 Mar 1899 abt 1877 Male Honolulu,
Hawaii and Newcastle, Australia N S W Oceanic Vance
View Record Andrew Drews 24 Nov 1955 Pusan, Korea Oceanic
View Record Andrew Peter Telstrom 4 Oct 1893 abt 1864 Male
Yokohama, Japan Woochang Oceanic
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7949andr*
kewyword(s) New Zealand gives 176 hits
no Oceanic
Andreas Gaaser 31 Dec 1917 Singapore to San Francisco
Selandia
is an intersting entry
MS ‘SELANDIA’, the world’s first ocean going diesel motor ship – built
by Burmeister & Wain (B&W) Copenhagen, set out on her maiden voyage in
January 1912
The East Asiatic Company Ltd. A/S
(A/S Det Østasiatiske Kompagni)
Founded in 1897
Listed on the Copenhagen Stock Exchange
Employees*): 3.922
Revenue,*): DKK 2.8bn
Geography: Asia and Venezuela
Headquarters: Copenhagen, Denmark
Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Jan Erlund
President & CEO: Niels Henrik Jense
Andrew Nelson 20 Dec 1909 abt 1845 Male Papeete, Tahiti New
Zealand Mariposa
but he is an english farmer - just an ancestry indexing error
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx= ... pid=210108===============================
Until I can be sure of the last name, looking
at Danish records would be a waste of time.
not actually
because at that time last names were for middle and upper classes
and patronmics dominated the villages and later changed to surnames
Danish personal names and naming FAQ
http://www.rootsweb.com/~dnkcen/FAQ/names.html==========================
if his first name and dob are correct
and one parish is good enough
but I drew the line at searching all 30 Falster parishes
Maribo Amt:
Falsters Nørre Herred
http://www.clicketyclick.dk/amt-herred- ... anguage=daFalsters Sønder Herred
http://www.clicketyclick.dk/amt-herred- ... anguage=dasome listed in USA as danish are in fact geographically norwegian
because at the time Norway was ruled by the danish kings in Copenhagen
where did you get andreas from? what source?
Zealand is also an alternative spelling for the largest island in
Denmark - Sjælland
http://www.krak.dk/Person.aspx is the danish telephone book white pages
COREPB COREP give no results CORE only as an english loan word
KORRE KORSEN are very rare
what are the names of his children and grandchildren or nephews and neices
it is a little late for naming patterns and these were customs not rules
http://www.arkivalieronline.dk/default.aspxlinks to
http://www.ddd.dda.dk/soeg_person.aspyou could also enquire here
http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/list.php?11===================================
1 February 1845 is the Folketæelling /census date
one possible
right county wrong parish
Kilde: FT-1845 Kildehenvisning: side 70
Navn: Andreas Christian Kastrup
Alder: 1 Civilstand: ugift
Erhverv: Deres Søn
Fødested: her i Sognet
Sogn: Fejø Herred: Fuglse
Amt: Maribo Stednavn: Weirøe
Husstands-/familienr: 122 Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus
Antal familier/hus: 1
Indtastningsnr: A4065 Løbenr.: 65
also =========
Exact Search Results - 1900 United States Federal Census
You searched for Andr* Kastrup
Name Parent or spouse names Home in 1900
(City,County,State) Birth Year Birthplace Race Relation
Andrew J Kastrup Martha Philadelphia Ward 39, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania abt 1853 Denmark White Head
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the top
Andreas Christian Kastrup was born december 19 1844 so not your guy
images / opslag 34 Fejø parish Fuglese Maribo ounty Denmark
====================
another candidate
Kilde: FT-1845 Kildehenvisning: 224
Navn: Andreas Bau Køn: M
Alder: 1 Civilstand: Ugift
Erhverv: Pleiebørn
Fødested: Do [Nkb.]
Sogn: Nykøbing Falster Landdistrikt Herred: Falsters Sønder
Amt: Maribo Stednavn: -
Husstands-/familienr: 27 Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus
Antal familier/hus: 3
Indtastningsnr: C2325 Løbenr.: 221
Samtlige personer i husstanden OOPS
maribo, Lollands Nørre, Nakskov Købstad, Nørre Fjerding 1ste Rode og
2den Ditto, Bredgade 146, 146, FT-1845, B5264
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Bonne Bonnezen 49 Gift Procurator Nyborg
Charlotte Dorph 41 Gift hans Kone [Bonne Bonnezen] Nakskov
Sophie Bagge 18 Ugift Huusfaderens Stedbørn [Bonne Bonnezen] Nakskov
Holger Bagge 16 - Huusfaderens Stedbørn [Bonne Bonnezen] Nakskov
Christiane Bonnezen 12 - deres Børn [Bonne Bonnezen, Charlotte Dorph]
Nakskov
Hans Bonnezen 8 - deres Børn [Bonne Bonnezen, Charlotte Dorph] Nakskov
Ludvig Bonnezen 6 - deres Børn [Bonne Bonnezen, Charlotte Dorph] Nakskov
Andreas Bonnezen 3 - deres Børn [Bonne Bonnezen, Charlotte Dorph] Nakskov
Ane Nielsdatter 49 Enke(mand) Tjenestetyende Nakskov
==============================
Falsters Nørre
no andreas young enough
==================================
Falsters Sønder
Samtlige personer i husstanden
maribo, Falsters Sønder, Nykøbing Falster Landdistrikt, -, et Huus, 27,
FT-1845, C2325
Navn: Alder: Civilstand: Stilling i husstanden: Erhverv: Fødested:
Jens Nielsen 39 Gift Dagl. Nykb.
Anne Cathr. Jensen 40 Gift h. K. Kragh.
Ole Olsen 30 Gift Dagl. Oustrup
Kirstine Olsdatter 39 Gift h. K. Sullerup
Maren Elisabeth Olsen 9 Ugift deres Børn Nykb.
Niels P. Olsen 1 Ugift deres Børn Do [Nykb.]
Karen M. Pedersen 14 Ugift Pleieb. Torkildstrup
Peder Rasmussen 38 Ugift Tømmerlærling N. Kirkeby
Rasmus Hansen 57 Gift Dagl. Musse, Lolland
Karen Cathr. Hansdatter 49 Gift h. K. Rørbæk
Maren K. Rasmussen 10 Ugift deres Barn Nkb.
Hans J. Hansen 4 Ugift Pleiebørn Do [Nkb.]
Ehlers Karelius Andersen 3 Ugift Pleiebørn Do [Nkb.]
Andreas Bau 1 Ugift Pleiebørn Do [Nkb.] << foster child place of
birth Nykøbing Falster
November 28 1844 eliminates
Anders Jørgensen Bau NB patronymic as a middle name in the Købsted /
market town
===============================================
as your guy an ANDERS before he became an ANDREW?
==================
Navn: Anders Andersen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: deres Børn [Anders Larsen og Karen Andersdatter] Fødested: Do
[her i Sognet]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Gundslev
Stednavn: Skovby By
Matr.nr/adresse: en Gaard Husstands-/familienr: 43 Indtastningsnr:
b8917 Løbenr.: 698
Navn: Anders Mortensen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: Ugift
Erhverv: deres børn [Morten Jensen og Bodil Olsdatter] Fødested: Do
[her i Sognet]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Nørre Vedby
Stednavn: Egeløv Bye
Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus Husstands-/familienr: 32 Indtastningsnr:
b8922 Løbenr.: 554
Navn: Anders Mortensen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: ugift
Erhverv: Deres Barn Fødested: Ønslev
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Ønslev
Stednavn: Ønslev By
Matr.nr/adresse: Huus Husstands-/familienr: 52 Indtastningsnr: A7041
Løbenr.: 283
Navn: Anders Mortensen Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: deres børn [Morten Johnsen og Karen Mortensdatter] Fødested:
do [her i Sogn:]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Torkilstrup
Stednavn: Taarup Bye
Matr.nr/adresse: en Gaard Husstands-/familienr: 33 Indtastningsnr:
B8924 Løbenr.: 191
Navn: Anders P. Olsen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: Ugift
Erhverv: deres børn [Ole Nielsen og Ane Hansdatter] Fødested: Do [her
i Sognet]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Nørre
Alslev Stednavn: Ravnsøe Bye
Matr.nr/adresse: en Gaard Husstands-/familienr: 23 Indtastningsnr:
b8921 Løbenr.: 573
Navn: Anders Pedersen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: deres Børn [Peder Andersen og Karen Marie Olsdatter]
Fødested: do [her i Sog:]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Kippinge
Stednavn: Øster Kippinge
Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus Husstands-/familienr: 55 Indtastningsnr:
b8918 Løbenr.: 317
Navn: Anders Rasmussen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: Ugift
Erhverv: deres Børn [Rasmus Jacobsen Raae og Maren Andersdatter]
Fødested: do [her i Sog:]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Nørre Sogn: Kippinge
Stednavn: Vester Kippinge
Matr.nr/adresse: en Gaard Husstands-/familienr: 36 Indtastningsnr:
b8918 Løbenr.: 196
============================
Navn: Anders Christian Andersen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: Ugift
Erhverv: deres Barn Fødested: Her i Sognet [Falkerslev]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Falkerslev
Stednavn: Falqversløv By
Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus Husstands-/familienr: 30 Indtastningsnr:
C2320 Løbenr.: 167
Navn: Anders Christoffersen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: deres Børn Fødested: Do [i Sognet] [Karleby]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Karleby
Stednavn: Karlebye
Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus Husstands-/familienr: 5 Indtastningsnr:
C2324 Løbenr.: 35
Navn: Anders Jensen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: deres Barn Fødested: Do [Her i Sognet] [Sønder Alslev]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Sønder
Alslev Stednavn: S. Alsløv Bye
Matr.nr/adresse: et Parselsted Husstands-/familienr: 20
Indtastningsnr: C2328 Løbenr.: 117
Navn: Anders Johnsen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: deres Børn Fødested: Do [her i Sognet] [Idestrup]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Idestrup
Stednavn: Tjærebye Bye
Matr.nr/adresse: et Huus Husstands-/familienr: 32 Indtastningsnr:
C2323 Løbenr.: 678
Navn: Anders Jørgensen Køn: M Alder: 1 Civilstand: -
Erhverv: Deres Barn Fødested: Do [I Sognet] [Horbelev]
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Horbelev
Stednavn: Bregninge Bye
Matr.nr/adresse: Et Huus Husstands-/familienr: 8 Indtastningsnr:
C2321 Løbenr.: 719
Navn: Anders Larsen Alder: 1 Civilstand: Ugift
Erhverv: Deres sønner Fødested: His
Kilde: FT-1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Sønder
Kirkeby Stednavn: Sønder Kirkeby
Matr.nr/adresse: et hus Husstands-/familienr: 48 Indtastningsnr:
A7662 Løbenr.: 231
Navn: Anders Rasmussen Alder: 1 Civilstand: ugift
Erhverv: Deres barn Fødested: Her i Sognet
Kilde: FT1845 Amt: Maribo Herred: Falsters Sønder Sogn: Nørre
Ørslev Stednavn: Nørre Ørslev By
Matr.nr/adresse: 62 en Parcel Husstands-/familienr: 62
Indtastningsnr: A7661 Løbenr.: 313
well I am stopping here
all those images refered to are in film as well as on line
no time for more
you just have to find a boy
born in FALSTER, DENMARK on 08/03/1845. assuming he ws not lying about
his age as people do
Hugh W
--
a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks
old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
--
a wonderful artist in Denmark
http://www.ingerlisekristoffersen.dk/Beta blogger
http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks
old blogger GENEALOGE
http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG