Ole Iversen Moen vs Ole Iversen Teigen...

[Kolbjørn Harald Blix]

Det er noe merkelig her.

Bygdeboka for Flå sier at Ole Iversen Teigen ble gif og bodde der oppe.
https://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/c3d952cb83be ... ndex=9#273

Bygdeboka for Klæbu hinter om at Ole Iversen Moen opprinnelig kunne komme fra Teigen i Flå,og at Iver Roaldsen Teigen i så fall var hans far. De nevner også at Ole Roaldsen Aune var en farbror av Ole Iversen Moen.

https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_d ... 22&page=43

Ifølge den fra Flå kan ikke Ole Iversen som bygslet Moen i 1720 være fra Flå. Den Ole Iversen Teigen som forfatterne av boka fra Klæbu nok tenkte på, sønn av Iver Roaldsen Teigen, blir nemlig iføge Flå-boka gift med Eli Andersdatter i Flå. De får fem barn mellom 1717 og 1725, så da er Iver Olsen Moen nok annet steds fra.

Hva kan være rett her?

[dn26520]

I am a descendant of Ole Iversen Målsjø. I understand why you are questioning his paternity. It seems that he cannot be the son of Iver Roalden Teigen according to the bygdebok for Flå, which is supported by the probate record of Ole Iversen of Teigen that was recorded on 29 November 1737: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/77799/4027 Ole Iversen Målsjø is obviously not the son of Iver Roaldsen Teigen. It seems to me that the only way Ole Iversen
Målsjø could be the son of Iver Roaldsen Teigen is if Iver Roaldsen Teigen had two sons named Ole, which certainly would not have been unusual. However, in the 1701 census there is only one son named Ole listed with Iver Roaldsen Teigen: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/38460/61 I do find the probate record for Iver Roaldsen Teigen written on 24 November 1713 a little confusing. It mentions his son Ole twice- once as a dragoon and as living with his mother. Is this the same person or two separate sons?:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/77799/4025 I am unable to access this original probate record, so I can’t check it out more thoroughly. All in all, it seems that we have been on the wrong track and Ole Iversen Målsjø cannot be the son of Iver Roaldsen Teigen. I plan to search the 1701 census of that area for another plausible Ole Iversen who may be my ancestor. Thank you.

[Kolbjørn Harald Blix]

Lawrence,

Thanks for answering!
I think the card is only mentioning one Ole. In 1713 the record states that Ole is a soldier, and then in 1715 he has taken over the farm. His mother and siblings are all staying with him still.

Well, it's time to drop Ole Iversen Teigen, and concentrate on other possibilities, if we can find records of any new candidates.

I'll notify the Klæbu-bok people about this.

However; how about finding out who this guy is: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/206/pc00000000669148
Ole Iversen, 16 years old i 1701, serving at Hoset farm... Either this is Ole Iversen Teigen or it could be our guy...

Or even better: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/206/pc00000000642494
This guy is serving at Huchelaas farm at age 11, but in the above record his father, Iver Olsen is also mentioned. It's a pity that Oles age at burial isn't mentioned...

Best regards,

[dn26520]

Dear Kolbjørn,

Thank you for responding. Yes, it’s time to search for a different Ole Iversen. Thank you for sending the information on these two, I will research them.

Since reading your entry yesterday, I have been researching different Ole Iversens as well. I found three who I thought to be plausible. As you have indicated, it is difficult to pinpoint our ancestor because his age at the time of his death was not recorded. That leaves a rather large window of possibility. I have found three in the 1701 census to be likely candidates. One also has to consider the possibility that he may not even have been born or was too young to be included in the 1701 census, since his first child was born about 1720. These are the three possibilities that I have found:

Ole Iversn 27 of Trotland, Hølonda: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/38460/62 As you can see, he lives with his father. I found the probate of Iver Olsen’s wife:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/77799/4093 It seems she had been married before and she was not Ole Iversen’s mother.

I found another who seemed like a good candidate at Löberg, Horg: Ole Iversen- 18. He lives with his father and grandfather: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/38460/66 We may be able to rule him out since he was married in 1710, but he could have become a widower:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWZ6-28H

The third possibility I have found is Ole Iversen- 3, at Kielder, Singsås, Haltdalen:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/38460/77 I have also found his father’s probate record: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/77835/187

I hope that we are able to determine with certainty who was our actual ancestor. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Larry Justad
Jus_sor@hotmail.com

[Kolbjørn Harald Blix]

I think we can forget about Ole Iversen Løberg. He dies in Nordflaa (Løberg) in 1772.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/L%C3%B8berg-47

[Kolbjørn Harald Blix]

And we can forget about Ole Iversen Kjelden too:
https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_d ... n&page=417
He married Inger Andersdatter Rød...

[Kolbjørn Harald Blix]

And we can forget about Ole Iversen Trotland as well. He took over the farm around 1720, and was probably dead before 1738. https://www.nb.no/items/URN:NBN:no-nb_d ... d&page=201

[dn26520]

Wow! You’ve been busy. Thank you for narrowing the field of our possible candidates. I am at a disadvantage. Since I am not in Norway, I am not able to access or open all of the books at the Norwegian National Library. It looks like our best prospect at this time is Ole Iversen, 16, a tjener of Hoset, Skaun. I’ll try to research him. Thank you for all your hard work, Larry

[Kolbjørn Harald Blix]

I am a descendant of Ole Iversen Målsjø. I understand why you are questioning his paternity. It seems that he cannot be the son of Iver Roalden Teigen according to the bygdebok for Flå, which is supported by the probate record of Ole Iversen of Teigen that was recorded on 29 November 1737: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/77799/4027 Ole Iversen Målsjø is obviously not the son of Iver Roaldsen Teigen. It seems to me that the only way Ole Iversen
Målsjø could be the son of Iver Roaldsen Teigen is if Iver Roaldsen Teigen had two sons named Ole, which certainly would not have been unusual. However, in the 1701 census there is only one son named Ole listed with Iver Roaldsen Teigen: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/38460/61 I do find the probate record for Iver Roaldsen Teigen written on 24 November 1713 a little confusing. It mentions his son Ole twice- once as a dragoon and as living with his mother. Is this the same person or two separate sons?:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/77799/4025 I am unable to access this original probate record, so I can’t check it out more thoroughly. All in all, it seems that we have been on the wrong track and Ole Iversen Målsjø cannot be the son of Iver Roaldsen Teigen. I plan to search the 1701 census of that area for another plausible Ole Iversen who may be my ancestor. Thank you.


 

Larry,

What happened here is this:
The probate was held in 1713, and by then Ole was a Dragon in the military. However, there's a note from 1715 saying that Ole has taken over the farm, and his mother and all his siblings were living with him. So, there's only one Ole.

-Kolbjørn